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Starting and running a business is hard. Starting and running a values-based business is even harder.

Doing so requires making decisions that put people before profits. That honor individuals as humans. That sacrifice short-term wins for long-term, sustainable growth.  

I’m Andi Graham, the CEO, and founder of a digital marketing agency called Big Sea.

I meet entrepreneurs all the time who are really good at talking the talk, but when the rubber meets the road, they cave. Their values are just a mural on a wall or a page on their website, and the decisions they make defy them in every way.  

Then, there are those of whom I stand in awe. Those with the murals and web pages who also walk the walk. Whose business practices and decisions align with the things they profess to hold dear. 

Walk the Walk is about those people. It is a podcast for entrepreneurs who make tough choices in the name of integrity every day, even when it’s hard.

May 11, 2020

Firing people is hard, especially when you have a small, close-knit team. But it's an absolutely essential part of running a successful business. Learning to let people go with grace and kindness is a skill that Jen Dary teaches people to do well.

In this episode, Jen talks to Andi about the struggles of becoming a manager, leading with values, and how to fire people with kindness.